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Need help on installing mercs

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:04 am
by Silvaya
So, I've been craving some old school mech destruction recently, but I've been having some technical difficulties that I need help with. Please read on to see all that I've tried so far...

The current version of Mechwarrior 2 Mercenaries that I have has the jewel case that says "Enhanced Direct 3D Video and 3D Positional Sound" on it.

My computer uses Vista Home Premium 32 bit, and I followed all of the directions for installing mercs in DOSBox. Then I patched it to 1.05 and then to 1.06. The game starts, but when I go into instant action, after the "Synchronizing Neurohelmet Interface," the game crashes. This is what I read on DOSBox: "Exit to error: RET from illegal descriptor type 0" (zero).

I've also tried installing mercs in DOSBox on my XP Pro (SP1?) virtual PC, run on my vista computer, and I get the same thing as above. An additional message that I get at the end of the installation is that I need to get VESA support on my graphics card (maybe I need to emulate a different graphics card from the available choices?), probably because it is a virtual PC.

I've also tried thecrankyhermit's 1.1 patch, but it doesn't work for me; I can get into the game, but whenever I try to initiate a mission, it shows the "Synchronizing Neurohelmet Interface," then the screen turns black and I have to force quit. I tried it on an XP virtual PC and I couldn't select "use the primary video driver."

I should also note that I can't use the windows 95 installer because a message pops up in either vista or XP virtual PC saying that the application doesn't support windows NT. Mech VM supposedly has been able to install it, but then it can't run the game, nor can I manually go to the directory and run it.

Anyone can shed some light on my situation? Any suggestions are welcome!

Re: Need help on installing mercs

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:20 am
by Skyfaller
MechVM supposedly has been able to install it, but then it can't run the game, nor can I manually go to the directory and run it
That raises several questions for me:
  • The game should be installed in <MechVM directory>\games. Why can't you run it from there?
  • Where does it fail when you run it from MechVM?
  • What error messages displayed?
  • Did you create a .CUE image to run the game using DosBox?
I'm not sure if I can help, but it may help if you attach install-report.txt from <MechVM directory>\games.

Re: Need help on installing mercs

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:15 am
by Silvaya
Will MechVM work on vista? I read the best way to install it on vista is DOSBox. I'll try MechVM again now.

and yes, I made a cue file

Edit: Alright, it installed in MechVM on vista, but whenever I run the DOS versions (native and DOSBox), the process ends immediately. The message that I get is "Process ended with code 0." The Windows 95 version runs, but it is horribly slow, so slow that it is unplayable. I'll upload the install report too.

Second Edit: I patched the DOS versions to 1.06, and then it has the same error as in the first post

Re: Need help on installing mercs

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:04 pm
by Sir MMPD Radick
Unfortunately you have the worst version of Mercenaries on the market. I call it the nightmare edition.
It can work, but it is a major pain to get it working.

If I recall correctly the only method that works successfully is Kontza's method.
There might also be another step to it, but I cannot remember what it was atm. There is another thread that deals with this version specifically.

Edit:

I should also point out that the DOS version of mercs on this disc is flawed and does not work no matter what is tried.

Re: Need help on installing mercs

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:22 am
by Silvaya
I'm pretty sure that I don't have the nightmare edition. I have this version:
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I checked viewtopic.php?f=9&t=281 before purchasing, and it said this one can be played online and offline.

I'm currently trying Khorg's method on my XP virtual PC. *edit* it didn't work.

Re: Need help on installing mercs

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:49 am
by Skyfaller

Re: Need help on installing mercs

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:16 am
by Silvaya
Thanks, but I can't run the 95 windows installer because I get a message saying that it is not NT compatible. So, I'll have to find a method to get the DOS version working

as a last resort, I could buy a 95 windows installer for cheap and get that running on a virtual PC and install and play the game there. perhaps I should do that? it seems like i've tried all of the different methods for installing DOS that were listed here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=806

Re: Need help on installing mercs

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:31 pm
by Sir MMPD Radick
all you do is simply turn the compatibility mode on the setup for Windows 98.

And yes that is the nightmere edition

Re: Need help on installing mercs

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:34 pm
by Silvaya
oh. now i'm really confused because this edition wasn't listed as the nightmare edition. alright, i'll try the 98 compatibility on my XP virtual PC.

*edit* i see. it was just moved up to the nightmare area. since i'm not planning to use it online, i don't need to get a new version, right?

*edit #2* oh well. i'm gonna just wait a few days until i can install windows 95 and then just use virtual PC to run my games. anyone know beforehand if that will work?

Re: Need help on installing mercs

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:06 pm
by Sir MMPD Radick
I'm sorry it was my fault.
I should have listed it there, but i thought it was such a unique version. It is hard to give a bad rating to such a unique version of the game.
By all mentions it is the most feature pleasing version out of the mercs, yet it has the same problems as the regular D3D edition of mercs.

Regarding the Virtual machine and that.. you might still have trouble depending on which virtual machine you use..
Vmware probably is the one that has the highest chance of working, but still there is no guarantees.